Live updates of the hearing today feature here..The Delhi High Court Bench of Justices Vipin Sanghi and Rekha Palli is hearing the case concerning various issues that have emerged out of the COVID-19 pandemic in Delhi.The issues before High Court include hospitalisation, oxygen supply and availability of medicines. .There are 12 incidents of political parties having remdesivir.. they are involved in black marketing: Gupta.Advocate Viraj Gupta mentions matter..Advocate YP Singh: My writ be listed today. It is for Indira Gandhi Hospital in Dwarka. Let it be listed: Court.Senior Advocate S Tushar Rao mentions that even Bhagat Chandra Hospital is in a similar situation..We are running out of oxygen. Supplier are saying they are doing their own work. The WhatsApp group does not work: Batra Hospital.Batra Hospital: We are left with an hour of oxygen.. Delhi govt sent a tankers. Inox and Piyush Goyal are saying they will supply (in the evening). 230 patients are on oxygen support. Since 6 am we are on SoS mode. We are dealing with the same crisis..You bring it on record: Court.This firefighting will have to go on.. nodal officers are there.. to bridge this gap: Court.Supply cycle is such that we are in crisis mode every day for 3-4 hours.. now we are dependent on govt every day. It's a never-ending cycle : Batra Hospital.If we know oxygen is coming at 5pm, we are responsible enough to manage: Aggarwal.Aggarwal suggests a mechanism be put in place to let hospitals know the time of delivery. .Today on SoS basis, Delhi govt really helped us out: Aggarwal.Maharaja Agrasen faced a similar problem and it was only because of Rahul Mehra that lives were saved: Advocate Alok Aggarwal.Our tankers are not given priority. There is no timing, schedule given to us. We are dealing in SoS even today. My officers will have a mental breakdown. A morally conscious person does what best he can. This can't be permitted: Rahul Mehra.Quantity on Delhi border is 312 MT...there is absolutely no reason to allow supplier to do this now. These are voluntary projections by them. They seem to be diverting it to some other State under some pressure. At least we should be reaching to 490. We are falling down: Rahul Mehra.Aggarwal shares a chart. Senior Advocate Rahul Mehra for Delhi govt says the chart may be shared with Delhi govt..77.283 is in transit ..this is for April 30th. So probably it is delayed. Ideally, it should have reached: Court Every delay may cause a life to be lost: Mehra.They need to pull up their socks and voluntarily deliver.. they wanted to give us 445MT.. there is no dearth of tankers now: Rahul Mehra.If we can have the suppliers here..I have only 20MT for SoS : Mehra.Yesterday against alloted 37, Linde supplied 27...today it will only be 10-12 MT : Seth Air.Advocate Aseem Chaturvedi for Inox is present. .This is as good as killing patients : Mehra.Yesterday I supplied 56MT. And 6 MT as cylinders. We're doing beyond.. : Advocate Rohit Ranjan for Goyal Gases.That's good : Court I hope every supplier will rise to the occasion and supply more than their voluntary commitments: Mehra.We are not going to hear you say what is coming is good enough: Court.Core problem is distribution .. there is enough oxygen: Amit Mahajan Advocate for Centre.We leave it to Mr Rao. He may do that: Court.Lawyers are willing to help. Court can attach a Commisioner: Mahajan as he says that Delhi govt officers are also over stretched.If would be better if the suppliers and the hospitals on route are part of the group... According to the tankers... having a large group serves no purpose: Court.Rao emphasises that the WhatsApp groups should be created for this purpose..Rao points out that up to date info from suppliers is still not there..Court says groups should have nodal officers. We leave it to Mr Rao if he wants to be added : Court.Rao suggests that hospitals also indicate the SoS requirements..If oxygen supplies improve, large chunk of problems will get resolved: Rao.We will step in to ensure that it is created...: Rao.We are seeing everyone's difficulty..this system may take some time to stablise. Give it some time. If you keep on having exchanges, that man is also stressed out. Try to be more accommodative in that sense: Court.Batra Hospital ED reads messages from the WhatsApp group with supplierThis is not a matter of disturbing someone on WhatsApp group: Batra Hospital.Let theses issues be raised from your end: Court.In the war room.. maybe Linde be communicated through the war room.. if Mr Mahajan would communicate: Mehra.We want to know why suppliers are defaulting: Court.We are all having to go through..if govt has some stock, they will help you tide over: Court.My quota they are increasing from 80 to 100MT..: Chaturvedi.Chaturvedi: Yesterday, we agreed that two hospitals will be taken care by Delhi govt.. Today morning I've been told that the hospitals have to be back to us..We'll issue some advisory or order: Mahajan.Yesterday, Lady Hardinge and Safdarjung said give me 2X. I refused. I will break my back : Chaturvedi.The allocation can't change everyday. I don't have endless supply and people. I don't have free trucks: Chaturvedi.I will supply whatever I can. I only have truck drivers that are ferrying day in and day out. Let someone from Central govt be part of the group. Yesterday, my truck was stuck in Haryana. There are many issues: Chaturvedi.How can I match that? Then I've to deal with the (state govts delaying my trucks).. allegations are not in the correct spirit. I've taken more than I can chew. Problem is not that I'm not delivering. SoS is because they need much more: Chaturvedi.Chaturvedi says there is no coordination and the allocation is uncertain..We were forced to go back to the original tankers : Mehra.Mehra says allocation was changed due to incompatibility issues between supplier and hospitals..We have run out of oxygen for patients on ventilator: Batra Hospital Mr Mehra, please rush immediately: Court.Yes. I don't have the capacity or buffer. If one truck is delayed, there will be a Domino effect: Chaturvedi.Now you have these two Hospitals. Is there a capacity constraint?: Court.Too many people spoil the broth. These people know their job : CourtThere seems to be some communication gap. Please sort it out : Court.A lawyer again suggests that court commissioners be appointed. .I don't have information about these tankers. Maybe the hospitals have been informed: Chaturvedi.Mehra says Inox will have spare parts in case the tankers are not compatible..Rao asks if the two tankers given by Delhi govt to Inox are compatible with the hospitals..What is exempted is import duty. Cgst aspect is also there: Rao.Issue is we have informationb that 100s of oxygen concentrators are lying with customs with Delhi...these are not being released despite a notification by GOI : Venugopal.There are very large numbers of cylinders and concentrators coming in from people abroad.. how is it to be allocated.. if a direction could be given to place some kind of modalities. So that these are not coming into the black market: Venugopal.Can Delhi Govt respond on having field hospitals with the help of the army: Venugopal We're coming up with 15k beds. But we need 956MT: Mehra I don't know why Delhi govt is resisting army: VenugopalYour point is taken : CourtWe are not resisting. We have DRDO: MehraWe have ITBP. We are writing. We are in the process.. : Mehra.At the highest level, our Delhi is looking into it : Mehra.Looking at the past 10 days we don't know if if (900+MT) would fructify: Court.If you were to request the army, they would work at their own level. They have their own infrastructure.. they are also importing oxygen. They will take that responsibility: Court.This is being done at the highest possible authority: Mehra Why should it take four days?: Court 15k beds are in execution mode. Everything will be done. We are engaging at the highest level: Mehra.GOI has issued instructions to every former commander that they have to assist civil authorities: Venugopal.Court discusses the power given to army by the GOI..This augmentation could he a collaborative effort with the army so that resources are not wasted: Court I bow down: Mehra.It's not either or. We can do it together: Mehra.Critical problems are oxygen, beds and medicines. Given that court is seized of the matter, any issues/suggestions could be sent to us : Rao.There are several Petitions on individual concerns. We either dedicate a nodal officer.. : Rao.Every citizen should not think that this is a channel.. in a given case if we are able to find some bed somewhere.. these three petitions, the court may disposed of : Mehra.For two persons before court, no beds are required. One person got the bed and other is being managed at home: Counsel.I want to thank Mr Chetan Sharma. He was really helpful. He helped us get a bed : Adv Sachin Puri.He was the father of a court master : Puri If one could have been arranged yesterday... : Senior Adv Tushar Rao.Mr Sharma tried whatever he could : Puri.We'll take care of it.. : Mehra with respect to another person seeking bed. Court proceeds to dispose of pleas seeking hospitalisation..We take every SoS call very seriously. One Gandhi hospital had come yesterday. We tried to contact my officer.. ever since then he was trying to get details of Gandhi Hospital: Mehra.Mehra points out that the hospital's claim that no cylinders were received in the last 48 hours was not true..Not only are they going to main refiller but also going to the link .. they are going everywhere and then crying foul: Mehra.Adv Himanshu Dagar: We were approaching the link because we lost 2 people day before and one yesterday... They were running pillar and post. They didn't inform me they were in touch with the link.You made a wrong statement. Because you got it from (one supplier) : Court I was not able to contact the main person: Dagar How is that the right hand doens't know what the left hand was doing : Court.150-175 is our requirement. We get 50-60. Yesterday my truck went to Haridwar.. there is no gas in Multan and Bhawana.. : Dr Pawan Gandhi.We know you don't have oxygen. Nobody has oxygen: Court.You raised a hue and cry.. which is found to be false. We will not hear you because you did not come with clean hands. Rationing is there because it is shortage: Court.There was miscommunication. My aim is to not blame...I have few suggestions. Wherever oxygen is in surplus.. it can be sent. Patient shouldn't die due to lack of oxygen: Gandhi.We're looking at that: Court .Our intention is not to fight nor do we have the capacity to fight: Gandhi .He says he has received less than the allocation..Because of the mistake, patient should not suffer: Dagar .These are crucial hearings and time should not be wasted like this : Mehra.Mehra reiterates that Delhi itself doens't have oxygen to give..Unless we put the fear in supplier, they will take the city on ransom. Please issue a contempt notice : Mehra.We will ask the Amicus to talk to them.. to understand what the problem is. Where they have defaulted : Court.Suppliers are blaming the govt. Govt has its own problems.. hopefully by Monday we will streamline it : Rao.Linde says they supplied 1.77 yesterday. There seems to be some gap. That WhatsApp group will clarify.. : Rao.They're taking it very causally. They think they can come to court and say whatever to tide over it : Mehra.He's painting entry supplier with the same brush.. : Goyal Gases.We said thank you to you. What more can we say : Court.Justice Palli suggests that Adv Amit Mahajan be added to the WhatsApp group on behalf of Central Government..There are nodal officers of govt. It is best that the job is done by them : Court on Venugopal's suggestion to appoint an officer of the court.Mehra comes to the issue of an Inox tanker which was held up by Rajasthan. Why Inox is helpless is before his tankers have been detained.. it seems that Centre has agreed with the Rajasthan Government. Resources are also being diverted: Mehra.This should have been communicated to the court: Mehra. I still don't have those tankers. That matter was discussed before Surpreme Court. Dr Singhvi was here: Chaturvedi.Mehra says Supreme court asked them to come to High Court. .Mehra suggests there is tacit agreement between Rajasthan govt, Centre and Inox..This is absolutely discouraging: Chaturvedi .We don't see any reason for you to blame Inox: Court to Mehra.You said this is the stand of Central Government in the war room. may be Inox is not even aware of it. You are a part of the war room: Court.You should be aware before Inox becomes aware. Why blame Inox? : Court.We'll put it to Mr Mahajan. That day Mr Mehta said Central Government will have it resolved: Court.Dr Singhvi didn't press it. He said it has been resolved: Rao.Court reads the order passed in relation to Inox trucks being detained in Rajasthan..Central govt was tk resolve it. Why am I being blamed: Chaturvedi.Court records order..Court records the submissions..We had noted the submission made by Inox in order dated April 26 in this regard.. Mr Mehta had given an assurance that strict action would be taken and tankers are free : Court.We had hoped that Rajasthan would honor the Centre's and this Court's statement: Court.Court records Mehra's submissions on the stand taken by Rajasthan in the war room..Let this aspect be addressed by the Central government on Monday Mr Mahajan .. : Court Seth and company has declined to supply. Two hour supply is left : MD City Hospital. You communicate to Mr Satyakam: Court.Court resumes dictation. Mr ASG Sharma, this is serious. What is the point then? : Court We are not privy.. The Solicitor's statement is reiterated: ASG Sharma.Let necessary steps to fulfil Mr Mehta's assurance be taken. We are directing you : Court.Court seeks compliance be given: Mahajan .This is centre's problem. The Solicitor made a statement before us. Why should be call State of Rajasthan. Those four tankers or something in place has to come.. what is the sanctity of statements.. : Court.Inox reiterates that it doesn't have the capacity to meet the demands of the two Hospitals -- Guru Teg Bahadur and Rajiv Gandhi, says adapter to make tanker compatible has been given..My staff will be ready. But I can't take this additional burden of 30 MT: Chaturvedi.If the Amicus can try and resolve this issue : Mehra.Let Mr Rao examine it. Once he intervenes, some resolution has to be with consent: Court.Senior Adv Malvika Trivedi raises issue of medicines If govt can tell us if portal will be put in action: Trivedi She seeks a mechanism for individual use..16 MT is set aside for individuals needing oxygen: Mehra It has to be communicated. Hospitals won't know : Court We'll put it on the website also : Mehra.There is some availability.. orders are issued to authorities. These orders should be put up on Delhi fights corona website: Rao All orders will be put in one folder: Mehra.Your orders have to be properly indexed : Court.My hospital is willing to buy an oxygen generator. If the Amicus can sit with all hospitals .. : Aggarwal for Maharaja Agrasen.Hospitals are either run by charitable trust or doctors.they may not have a wherewithal. If we can do it collectively.. we will reduce substantial burden: Aggarwal Court asks Aggarwal to work it out amongst themselves. We don't want to burden the Amicus with everything: Court.If you need permission from Delhi govt, you tell us: Court.We ran out of oxygen supply can at 1:30. We were out of oxygen for 1 hour and 20 mins: Batra Hospital We hope no lives were lost: Court We have.. including one doctor. My apologies: Batra Hospital We wish you raised it with Mr Mehra before you raised before us : Court.We did .. not blaming anyone. We escalated..: Batra Court says hospitals are bound to have essentials like a oxygen plant. This is irresponsible.. It's a different matter that nobody could have contemplated .. : Court.Another hospital raises SoS. At 11 am oxygen cylinders were refilled.. : Adv Jawahar Raja for Delhi govt.They are trying not shift patients to another hospital: Adv Siddharth.Till 12:30 today I had not received anything: Anjali J Manish for the hospital.Court records order..Hospital in question is NKS Super Speciality..Let the position be verified: Court.Court records order in Gandhi Hospital matter..We wish that such false claims are not made in these times when we are toiling with several issues ..: Court.This application is disposed of with a warning to the hospital: Court.Court begins to hear Bar Council matter. I'll just take instructions: Mehra.We have been informed about the existing beds. We would like to know..a non ICU bed should come into circulation. We would like this info from all hospitals..who were kept from April 1 and for how long : Court.This info govt also has : Mehra.Mehra refers to an April 25 order by Delhi govt..Mehra points out the discharge policy for COVID patients..This is being violated. If court can call for record.. I fear .. without attributing anything to anyone. If a patient goes in, he is kept in. There is no danger of transmission after 10 days if he's not a serious patient : Mehra.What is happening probably is .. how many days is the turnaround time? It is far in excess of 10 days, in the range of 20-25 days...: Mehra.There is a three tier step down policy. If you are in ICU and you recover, you are stepped down to oxygen bed and then to a linked hotel and then back home. Similarly there is step up: Mehra.10% would need beds every day.. approx 2500. 250 would need an ICU. Unfortunately, we know the mortality rate is also high. Because of that and otherwise, beds are going to fall vacant: Mehra.Recovery rate is also very high. 95%. Where are the beds: Mehra Then why is it chocking: Court.Some doctors have this tendency.. some people who feel that treated patient is better than a new person. They are also human beings. Could be a combination of all of these: Mehra.If this could be diverted to Mr Kawaljeet Arora.. all data can come from Medical superintendents : Mehra.Rao says if Delhi govt can retrieve data from their portal from the last one week..Court says daily admission and discharge data should also come on the portal..Mehra shares an order by LNJP asking discharge of patients have more than 91% oxygen saturation..Court dictates order..Concern is raised before us about optimum utilisation of ICU and oxygen beds..: Court.From what has emerged is.. it is well known that one who gets COVID, takes about 10-14 days ro recover in normal course.. about 10% require hospitalization : Court.1% may require greater intervention and admission to ICU. Mr Stayakam states that in Delhi, there are total 20938 beds for COVID19 as on date: Court.Looking to the aforesaid number, every day a substantial number should become available. But that does not appear to be happening. Patients require hospitalization with oxygen support should normally be in a position to leave within 8-10 days subject to the condition: Court.Unless it worsens and requires ICU, in most cases, COVID resolves itself in 10 days to two weeks with medicines: Court.However it appears that there is chocking of beds .. Mr Mehra has drawn our attention to an office order by DGHS on revised discharge policy: Court.Court records the submissions made by Mehra..This transition ...it is not clear if it is taking place: Court.Court records the LNJP order on discharge of patients..Looking to the grave dearth and shortage of beds.., we consider it necessary to have this aspect looked into.. considering allegations of malpractices: Court.We direct medicinal superintendents of all hospitals to place by email the complete particulars of admission if COVID patient from April 1. It should also reflect the position on kind of bed occupied and date of discharge: Court.Information to be sent to Secretary, DSLSA : Court.Information to be given within four days. Report to be placed before court by DSLSA after analysing the data : Court.Rao says data may be called only for people who have stayed beyond 10 days and that the present order is not to ask hospitals to discharge..10 days and beyond and why: Mehra.If some hospital were to report that they don't have any person beyond 10 days...: Court Then we'll verify : Rao Rao says excess work will add to their work..Let us call for those who have stayed more than 10 days with reasons and number of daily discharge and admissions: Court.Adv Aditya Prasad says asking for reasons would add more work..Court directs hospitals to provide info on daily admissions, daily discharge, number of patients beyond 10 days and bed being occupied by them, from April 1 onwards.We'll ask the info to be sent to you only, Mr Rao : Court.Let order be communicated to all for compliance. Info to be given latest by Tuesday. We'll take it up on Thursday: Court.We direct GNCTD to update portal forthwith with regards admissions and discharge..it should be updated every day without fail : Court.GNCTD should bifurcate COVID beds into oxygen and non oxygen beds : Court.We're working on it. We'll come back positively (to take care of the need of Bar Council): Mehra We need only in case of emergency. We have arranged everything: Senior Adv Ramesh Gupta He wants to respond on Monday, Mr Gupta: Court.Senior Adv Ramesh Gupta is for Bar Council of Delhi...Adv YP Singh: In Dwarka, many lawyers are residing. Not even single admission is taking place. We are getting calls from court staff. Our judge was not admitted by Venkateswara Hospital in time...We are in the last leg for Dwarka hospital.. : Mehra.It will take 3-4 days. We are trying to expedite it : Mehra.As and when oxygen gets sorted.. we will augment the beds : Mehra.We will place a detailed status report : Mehra Bar rooms and cafeteria can be used for vaccination of lawyers: Gupta There are no vaccination for Delhi right now. Whatever is required to be done, we will try : Mehra.The entire problem is shortage of beds because of oxygen or whatever.. in Pragati Maidan we can accommodate those who don't require oxygen: Adv Ranjan.Then why should one stay at home : Court Some are alone: Ranjan.Radha Swami is lying vacant... CWC ...DRDO: Court.Beds are available for patients who don't require oxygen: Court Kindly leave it to be government to consider: Mehra You put it to Mr Rao. He will filter it : Court.Pushpawati Hospital is running out of oxygen. They don't have refilling cylinders.. we have tried everything on our end : Adv Prabhsahay Kaur .Something needs to be done. Now I'll have a nervous breakdown: Mehra.Kindly see what is going on... I've exhausted my arguments: Mehra .Let the Solicitor be here.. we'll see on Monday: Court .Seth Air says it hasn't received any oxygen and hospitals are calling it..My supplier is Linde : Adv Abhinav Tyagi Even my supplier is Linde : Kaur Linde is only catering to Haryana. Delhi has been put on backburner: Mehra.Mr Mahajan says he is not privy to what is happening in the war room..Linde has to explain: Mahajan But you made the allocation. It falls on you. You have to do it now : Court You must get it resolved ..right away : Court.We are telling you to get on it right away. Escalate it to Me Goyal..that Linde is not supplying to Seth or PSRI : Court.Tyagi says raw material couldn't reach them. Central govt will have to find some way..the issue is tankers and turnaround time : Rao.Mehra urges Centre to not color his statements politically. Rao says Delhi govt is short on tankers..All I've seen for 10 days is ego, ego, ego against lives : Mehra.Court records order..We have directed Mr Amit Mahajan to forthwith take up the matter with the officers of central government.. to ensure that allocation of central government from Linde and other producers are honoured: Court.He should take up the matter right away and report instructions : Court.Rescue Hospital says it has been allotted a supplier which is not functional. After intervention, we were supplied cylinders that would last till 5 pm...only doing paper work will not work : Adv Om Prakash Change has been made : Delhi govt counsel.Court records submissions in this regard..Please direct them to have their counsel here.. each of them: Rao.Mehra points out that the suppliers are not appearing before court. They don't take court orders seriously and they don't supply: Mehra.Looking to the problems being faced.. , we direct counsel for all suppliers to remain present during all hearings: Court orders..We have an SoS from my officer. From yesterday night, situation is worsening.. there is no or less supply. We have sos from all hospitals but no reserve: Mehra We don't know what is going to happen in the next few hours. We don't have oxygen: Mehra.Court records the submissions made Batra Hospital. ..For a period there was no oxygen and due to which 8 patients died : Court records. Court records the submission by Mehra..There is no supply or minimal supplies that is delayed : Mehra.We direct Centre to ensure that Delhi receives its 490MT oxygen supply today by whatever means.. Delhi is not an industrial state..it doesn't have cryogenic tankers : Court.It falls on the Central government to arrange tankers as well .. as it only remains a paper allocation. The allocation to Delhi has been in force from April 20 and not for a single day Delhi has received allocated supply: Court .If order is not implemented, concerned authority to remain present in Court on the next date of hearing: Court.We may even consider issuing contempt proceedings: Court .Court issues notice in the plea concerning Indira Gandhi Hospital in Dwarka..Water has gone above the head. Now we mean business. you will arrange everything now : Court tells ASG Chetan Sharma.ASG Sharma: It is my request that... everybody is stretched.. You made an allocation. You fulfil it : Court Issue is pending before Surpreme Court: ASG Sharma Don't tell us that. Eight people have died..will we shut our eyes to people dying in Delhi : Court.Could the court hold it for half an hour : ASG Sharma No. Enough is enough..who is asking for a dime more than alloacted: Court Situation is dynamic..: ASG Sharma We'll see your explanation on Monday if you can't supply: Court.Don't do this, Don't do that. We don't appreciate this. This is a new way of arguing that we are seeing: Court Aspect on increase of allocation was kept for Monday: Court.If the matter could be deferred by half an hour..Mr Goyal and Ms Dawra will be here: ASG Sharma Court refuses..The court will feel completely assured.. centre is doing maximum.. Contempt part will discourage..: ASG Sharma Bench is not here : Counsel inform.Court master asks counsel to wait..All matters listed for Monday: Court master
